I started poking around Radio Canada’s website today because in anticipation for our trip to Montreal, I’ve been listening to a lot of radio en Francais. In the process I discovered that Radio Canada is a bit to the Palestinian side of things, CBC is smack in the middle, La Presse is middle-to-Israeli, and Journal de Montreal seemed almost downright pro-Israeli. But of course a native French speaker could correct my interpretation of this.
After the Israel Rally in Chestnut Hill last night, I felt obligated to talk more about the conflict, good, bad, and ugly. Knowing full well it’s a loaded issue and that I would probably hear some feedback that may be complicated, I posted the above observations on Facebook, qualifying it by saying I’m just thinking a lot about this and trying to fact find. I got the following response from a friend of mine (who is an actual friend in real life):
At least those Israeli children are alive! In the present conflict 104 Palestinians have died, (many of which are children), 866 Palestinians are wounded, 1643 bombs have been dropped on Gaza, and 832 homes have been destroyed. Compared too 3 Israeli deaths and a dozen injuries. Gaza is the world’s largest open air prison where unemployment is around 50% and most of Gaza is impoverished. (Israel, on the other hand, has one of the most robust economies with unemployment at around 6%) It is one of the most densely populated areas, around 1.6 million people. Israel has calculated the calorie count needed so that they don’t starve but nothing more. Meaning that Gaza is only getting enough food to barely survive. Medical supplies are being restricted from Gaza.
The US is giving 8 million dollars a day in military aid to Israel. The Palestinians are getting nothing. This is not anywhere close to an even fight. Saying that Israel has a right to defend itself from the Palestinians is like saying that an adult has a right to defend itself from a child. They are not on equal footing. Is it any wonder that some Palestinians would want to defend themselves against the Israelis when they have been slowly and relentlessly displacing Palestinians and pushing them into smaller and smaller spaces? Just like the white colonists in the Americas did to Native people. Israel has started to round up migrants from Northern Africa and putting them into concentration camps.
Jen, I’ve known you for quite a while. I have always known you to understand the side of the oppressed and marginalized. I know that you can think critically about controversial issues. Please, please please do not let up that critical eye when it comes to Israel.
She then linked to this Huffington Post op-ed: 5 Lies the Media Keeps Repeating About Gaza.
I started writing a response to her, trying to address her many points, and it ended up being impossible to make it simultaneously accurate, thorough, and short enough for a Facebook comment. So here is my response to what she said above. I am posting this in the hopes that even if someone only reads a small portion of it, it will get them to examine the conflict from both sides.
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I know where you stand on this issue based on at least one previous Facebook post I have read of yours, so we haven’t ever discussed this before. However, because about 10 years ago I thought like you did, I think it’s really important that I address some of the points you lay out here.
I didn’t come to a different understanding of the conflict because of my faith. I came because I made a concerted effort to learn about the last 150 years of the area from several different sources, and continue to do so. With that said, here are my responses to some of your points:
“104 Palestinians have died, (many of which are children)” – this ties in with point #2 on the Huffington Post article list that you linked to. And also, Point #1 in the Huffington Post article, that the recent deaths of young Palestinians may be the recent cause of this escalation.
Perhaps the quickest way to address this is to give the following as just one example of how Hamas operates: ‘Earlier, in November 2007, Ban had condemned a rocket attack launched from a UN-run Gaza school.’
Normally I wouldn’t direct you to Wikipedia, but this particular article on Palestinian rocket attacks is so thoroughly footnoted that I think it is a worthy reference. It also draws very clear attention to two things:
1. One of the reasons so many civilians die in Gaza when Israel responds to terrorist attacks is because Hamas makes it a point, and has been doing so for several years, to use civilian locations from which to launch their attacks, knowing full well the danger they put their people in. To say that the rocket attacks are an alternative to suicide bombings is something of a misunderstanding, as both involve the martyring of innocent people.
2. Palestinian rockets have been fired consistently on southern Israel for over a decade. This is not a response to a new threat or a recent activity, or as Huffington Post would have us believe the recent death of a Palestinian teenager. It is a response to years of terror. That Israel took so long to do something about it only shows how difficult it is for them to react as any other country that is able to would act when faced with persistent acts of terror against them on their soil.
“Israel has calculated the calorie count needed so that they don’t starve but nothing more. Meaning that Gaza is only getting enough food to barely survive. Medical supplies are being restricted from Gaza.”, as well as part of point #3 from the Huff Po:
So, this refers to the “Red Lines” which were the guidelines for economic restrictions that took effect after Hamas took power in Gaza (2007) and which ended in 2010. As of today, Nov. 2012, there are no food restrictions from the Israeli side of the border and food flows freely. Also, it’s notable that during that time, there was no lack of food in Gaza nor widespread hunger of any kind.
Here is a link to Gisha’s information on the Red Lines and their ongoing legal quest to get them fully exposed, ostensibly for the purpose of preventing other such measures in the future.
It is worth noting that Gisha is an Israeli organization. Meaning, there are many people inside Israel who do not agree with every single decision that the Israeli government makes, and who are working to ensure that Palestinians have a free and fair quality of life just like they do.
As for the comment about the medical supplies, the closest I found to any medical restrictions was a note on Gisha’s site that there have been instances where a Palestinian person who wanted to receive treatment in Israel could not get a pass from the Palestinian Authority, and therefore Israel could not let them enter for treatment without such a pass, which involved proof of payment. However they did not elucidate how often such a thing happens. All other references I found to this were either people throwing this idea around without any references (i.e., a rumor they heard that sounded like it must be true), or a specific reference to how Israel has never blocked the entry of medical supplies, even during the Red Lines period. I did find a link on Wikipedia noting batteries for hearing aids, and that at one point in the past wheelchair importation was restricted, but that is no longer the case.
Since this information comes from the mouth of the Israeli consul to New England, take it for what you will, but he said last night that Israel is specifically making any effort to get civilians hurt in the conflict over to Israeli medical centers for care. He also said, notably, that the IDF considers it a failure any time they have harmed innocent civilians during a reprisal. This runs in contrast to the Hamas policy of specifically targeting civilian Israeli locations, which have no link to military operations.
To address the last point under Huff Po #3 about Israel restricting exports and other items, I am certainly not going to argue in favor of the blockade, as many Israelis also would not. So, to that point I concede that I do not think it achieved the goal of making Israel safer and/or removing Hamas from power. It does seem to only have made life more difficult for Palestinians, strengthened Hamas’ resolve, and given them yet more fodder to position themselves as martyrs.
“The US is giving 8 million dollars a day in military aid to Israel. The Palestinians are getting nothing.”
This quote below is from the NYT article linked to in the Huff Po article:
‘Washington provides hundreds of millions of dollars a year to the Palestinian Authority.’
I looked into this further and it turns out that we’ve sent an awful lot of aid to Palestinians over the years, and continue to do so. Here is a link to a recent report of the US aid to Palestine.
If you meant in the way of weaponry, that is of course different. Given that the US categorizes Hamas as a terrorist organization, and is allied with Israel, it is unlikely they would supply the Gaza Strip with weapons.
“Saying that Israel has a right to defend itself from the Palestinians is like saying that an adult has a right to defend itself from a child.” as well as part of point #3 and point #4 from Huff Po:
Actually, saying Israel is defending itself from Palestinians is incorrect altogether. It is defending itself from Hamas, which is a terrorist organization, which has repeatedly terrorized southern Israel for the last decade (see above). No amount of hyperbole changes that fact.
It’s interesting that in the NYT article that Omar Baddar (Huff Po) links to in order to try to prove his point that Hamas is open to a two-state solution, and therefore not the problem, Khaled Meshal says “If occupation ends, resistance ends. If Israel stops firing, we stop firing.” But this was in 2011 and Israel had pulled out of Gaza entirely by Sept. 12th, 2005. So what occupation is he talking about?
Also, while Hamas has taken a big step forward by removing the statement about the eradication of Israel as one of their goals from the charter, it was in the charter for over 20 years (1988-2006). They currently also ambiguously reference the idea that future generations of Palestinians reserve the right to change their mind about that. So, while they definitely need to be given some credit for the change, it stands to reason that Israel would be hesitant to trust their dedication to a two-state solution.
To address the idea that it is not a fair fight, you’re right. There’s nothing fair about having to create a culture in your government and country that puts military action and fear of your neighbors at the center of life. I already addressed the fact that Hamas uses Palestinian people, including children, as human shields. Israel does have a far superior military, out of necessity, and over years of building. That is the primary reason so few Israelis have been killed so far – defense is a way of life for them.
That said, I certainly don’t agree with Gilad Sharon’s take on things, but then again I hardly ever agreed with his father either. One of the few things I think Ariel Sharon did right was pull out of Gaza, but that is my limited opinion.
“Is it any wonder that some Palestinians would want to defend themselves against the Israelis when they have been slowly and relentlessly displacing Palestinians and pushing them into smaller and smaller spaces? Just like the white colonists in the Americas did to Native people.”
This is where history comes in. The progression of Israel from Zionist settlers in the 1800’s up through the WWII has very little in common with the European colonization of the Americas. The land was owned by the Ottoman Empire, and the areas where Zionists settled were purchased legally from the landowners over many years. Admittedly, the area was never completely without conflict. What’s important to note is that where those tensions rose are generally where other nations (including but not limited to Britain, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, France, and the Soviet Union back when it still existed) harnessed and magnified any disputes to serve their own political purposes. Sadly, one of those purposes in the early 20th century was Anti-Semitism, which while now only a part of the issue, still is an important part and should not be ignored when discussing motivations. To that point, over 20% of free Israeli citizens (i.e., not living in Gaza or the West bank) are Arab. It’s unlikely the opposite can be said of Jews in any predominantly Arab nation.
If you are thinking more of the displacement that took place immediately following the War of Independence in 1948, I agree it’s distasteful that so many Arab Palestinians lost their homes and had to move. What are more distasteful, however, are the facts that Arab Anti-Semitism precipitated that war, and that since it was fought generations of these people have seemingly had no place to go. Ask yourself, why is it that Jordan and Egypt didn’t welcome these people into their countries with open arms and immediately try to house and assimilate them as best and as quickly as possible? Why were they specifically delayed entry, and their territory used as base of operations for the PLO? Why now, when Egypt shares an open border with Gaza, is there still the majority of the burden on Israel to supply electricity and water? Why do Gazans still suffer when Egypt could potentially be doing more to stimulate their economy, without threatening the peace it has with Israel?
There is a NYT op-ed that is sort of the other side of the coin to the article you provided from Huffington Post. It addresses this idea that Israel is bearing an unfairly large portion of the burden for why Palestinian people are still in a bad way.
And I urge you, very seriously, to read about the history of the region. I can heartily recommend Israel by Martin Gilbert, and have Thomas Friedman’s From Beirut to Jerusalem and Joe Sacco’s Palestine on my list as well.
“Israel has started to round up migrants from Northern Africa and putting them into concentration camps.”
MSNBC had a well-measured article on this.
I admit, I don’t like the sound of some of the racist remarks coming from the older Israelis interviewed, nor does the 52% negative poll hearten me. However, I can certainly appreciate the dilemma, because France, Italy, Greece, and other Mediterranean countries all face this exact same problem. France most notably suffered some very serious racism issues in the last few years related to African immigration. So, while the use of the term “concentration camps” is both inaccurate and offensive, it is true that there is a problem across the board with racism and how to handle African immigrants, to which Israel is, sadly, not immune.
Last but not least, to address the point #5 in the Huff Po op-ed, I totally agree. I cannot personally envision a military solution to what seems at its heart to be an ideological problem. I do not know what it will take to get Israel’s government and Palestine’s governing bodies to finally agree for the last time, but I am guessing it may involve all the other fingers in the pie, which these days are mostly from Iran, getting out of the kitchen altogether.